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Include QA's time separate from Developers time

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In the current team I'm working with, QA's are estimating their time after/seperate from developers.

A situation manifests whereby developers estimate (8 points) fibonacci and then QA will expect something to take half a day to test then the total number gets bumped to 13 points.

This seems very wrong to me.

 

Can I confirm that QA should be estimating with the development team as 1 estimate, rather than estimating separately please?

I've always estimated points as a group - this is new to me and seems incorrect.

 

Thanks

 


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