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Nexus Refinement meetings and estimates

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I have a question concerning refinement meetings and estimates in Scaled Scrum with Nexus.
The Nexus guide mentions many levels of refinement and give some details for a so called
"cross team refinement" (decompose items to identify team, what sequence, identify dependencies).
Estimates are not mentioned there.

In "single-team scrum" I use the refinement meeting also for estimates as mentioned in the Scrum guide.

How to do in Nexus?

Following approaches spring to my mind:


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